I've been thinking about going back with my 8 group from mordred but the fact that it is new frontiers is a big turn off, tower camping and zergfest isn't exactly what i consider fun, but the fact no artifacts and masterlvl grind almost makes it worth trying. Oh and catacombs is full of overpowered 1v1 classes, hence why you've heard whines about it probably rooting from mordred where it would hit the hardest in that area.

btw, Fenix playing with old torcan?